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	<title>Comments on: FireFox 3.0 And Opera Have Inbuilt Support For Video, SVG Is Pretty Cool</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mock ups of Firefox 3 looks very Vista-ish</description>
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		<title>By: Arpit Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpit Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mathieu oh I was unaware of that let me update the post and thanks for educating me. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mathieu oh I was unaware of that let me update the post and thanks for educating me. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mathieu 'p01' Henri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathieu 'p01' Henri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh* nice post albeit completely unaware of the other standard compliant browsers ( mainly Opera ).


Good to see a second implementation of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUqC1URVytk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;VIDEO element introduced by Opera in february-march 2007&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2007-February/009702.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;proposed for standardization&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to the WHAT WG.


Anyone can get the &lt;a href=&quot;http://people.opera.com/howcome/2007/video/op950_8762_video_repack_with_lgpl_signed.exe&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Windows build of Opera with VIDEO enabled&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and read about it in &lt;a href=&quot;http://labs.opera.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;A call for video on the web&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Regarding SVG, Canvascape is NOT made using SVG but Canvas, hence the name. Also all the examples work in Opera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* nice post albeit completely unaware of the other standard compliant browsers ( mainly Opera ).</p>
<p>Good to see a second implementation of the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUqC1URVytk" rel="nofollow"><b>VIDEO element introduced by Opera in february-march 2007</b></a> and <a href="http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2007-February/009702.html" rel="nofollow"><b>proposed for standardization</b></a> to the WHAT WG.</p>
<p>Anyone can get the <a href="http://people.opera.com/howcome/2007/video/op950_8762_video_repack_with_lgpl_signed.exe" rel="nofollow"><b>Windows build of Opera with VIDEO enabled</b></a> and read about it in <a href="http://labs.opera.com/" rel="nofollow"><b>A call for video on the web</b></a>.</p>
<p>Regarding SVG, Canvascape is NOT made using SVG but Canvas, hence the name. Also all the examples work in Opera.</p>
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		<title>By: FireFox 3.0 Support For Video &#124; Firefox.hk</title>
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		<dc:creator>FireFox 3.0 Support For Video &#124; Firefox.hk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kasper Skov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kasper Skov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you gotta get the word out right ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you gotta get the word out right ?</p>
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		<title>By: Arpit Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpit Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow this has been a very informative discussion SVG sorry for replying so late.
@stelt thanks for that link it had a lot of examples.
@kasper thanks for submitting it to DIGG :) but I don&#039;t think it will make it


http://digg.com/software/FireFox_3_0_Has_Inbuilt_Support_For_Video_SVG_Is_Pretty_Cool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow this has been a very informative discussion SVG sorry for replying so late.<br />
@stelt thanks for that link it had a lot of examples.<br />
@kasper thanks for submitting it to DIGG :) but I don&#8217;t think it will make it</p>
<p><a href="http://digg.com/software/FireFox_3_0_Has_Inbuilt_Support_For_Video_SVG_Is_Pretty_Cool" rel="nofollow">http://digg.com/software/FireFox_3_0_Has_Inbuilt_Support_For_Video_SVG_Is_Pretty_Cool</a></p>
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		<title>By: stelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>stelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SVG + open video formats + sometimes a bit of Java
that would be my recipe for getting rid of the inaccessible thing called Flash.
Good examples and helping out on implementations is always welcome.
We&#039;re getting there, things are shaping up, but there&#039;s certainly some serious work left</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SVG + open video formats + sometimes a bit of Java<br />
that would be my recipe for getting rid of the inaccessible thing called Flash.<br />
Good examples and helping out on implementations is always welcome.<br />
We&#8217;re getting there, things are shaping up, but there&#8217;s certainly some serious work left</p>
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		<title>By: Kasper Skov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kasper Skov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ stelt
Didn&#039;t knew that google maps were made with SVG :) But anyways, it&#039;s not really what I&#039;m think of. I&#039;m talking about services like youtube, flash players, flash games etc. etc.
Hopefully it&#039;s just a matter of a few years time before people start to see the light and switch from flash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ stelt<br />
Didn&#8217;t knew that google maps were made with SVG :) But anyways, it&#8217;s not really what I&#8217;m think of. I&#8217;m talking about services like youtube, flash players, flash games etc. etc.<br />
Hopefully it&#8217;s just a matter of a few years time before people start to see the light and switch from flash.</p>
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		<title>By: stelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>stelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; are built using only SVG hence you can view them only in FireFox

Maybe your examples use stuff that only Firefox can handle. However every browser except IE implements a large (and growing) chunck of SVG, natively nowadays. IE, losing marketshare, no longer the biggest in some countries already, needs one of the indirect ways of doing SVG.


@ Kasper Skov:
&gt; SVG ... no one have really picked it up

Ever heard of Google Maps, just to name one. More to find on my earlier mentioned links page. Remember SVG is not someone&#039;s brand, there&#039;s no marketing like with Flash. You&#039;re right that people love &quot;Flash, the &#039;IDE&#039;&quot;, not &quot;Flash, the format&quot;, and once someone is stuck with one thing, they usually don&#039;t change easily. SVG is catching up in tools. See the section on my page. Please report on the web if you decide to try a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; are built using only SVG hence you can view them only in FireFox</p>
<p>Maybe your examples use stuff that only Firefox can handle. However every browser except IE implements a large (and growing) chunck of SVG, natively nowadays. IE, losing marketshare, no longer the biggest in some countries already, needs one of the indirect ways of doing SVG.</p>
<p>@ Kasper Skov:<br />
&gt; SVG &#8230; no one have really picked it up</p>
<p>Ever heard of Google Maps, just to name one. More to find on my earlier mentioned links page. Remember SVG is not someone&#8217;s brand, there&#8217;s no marketing like with Flash. You&#8217;re right that people love &#8220;Flash, the &#8216;IDE&#8217;&#8221;, not &#8220;Flash, the format&#8221;, and once someone is stuck with one thing, they usually don&#8217;t change easily. SVG is catching up in tools. See the section on my page. Please report on the web if you decide to try a few.</p>
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		<title>By: Kasper Skov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kasper Skov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you write yourself, SVG have been around for a looong time but no one have really picked it up. Same goes Theora. Wouldn&#039;t the web be a much nicer place if every browser just came with built-in Theora support so that you didn&#039;t have to bother with codecs and just know as a webadmin that whatever browser that&#039;s gonna visit your site will be able to play your videos ?

As it is now, we have flash players but they are all pretty crappy and often I find myself having problems streaming some videos (from e.g. youtube) even though I have a fast 8mbit connection :S

How&#039;s the tools for making apps and games in SVG ? I think that alot of people tend to use flash because of it&#039;s easy-to-use IDE (if you can call it that) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you write yourself, SVG have been around for a looong time but no one have really picked it up. Same goes Theora. Wouldn&#8217;t the web be a much nicer place if every browser just came with built-in Theora support so that you didn&#8217;t have to bother with codecs and just know as a webadmin that whatever browser that&#8217;s gonna visit your site will be able to play your videos ?</p>
<p>As it is now, we have flash players but they are all pretty crappy and often I find myself having problems streaming some videos (from e.g. youtube) even though I have a fast 8mbit connection :S</p>
<p>How&#8217;s the tools for making apps and games in SVG ? I think that alot of people tend to use flash because of it&#8217;s easy-to-use IDE (if you can call it that) ?</p>
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